My PDA Parenting Rock Bottom (And What Finally Got Us Out!)

<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>If you're parenting a PDA kid or any autistic, neurodivergent adhd, maybe even intersecting neurodivergent profiles, if that is your child and they melt down over things that seem so small and you are exhausted trying to figure out why nothing is working, then this episode is for you.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I'm about to walk you through exactly why and what actually helps.</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
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<p>Welcome to the Attuned Spectrum podcast.</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
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<p>I'm Chantal Hewitt, an RDHD mum, experienced educator, and autism support coach who understands your path because I also walk it daily.</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
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<cite>Speaker B</cite>
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<cite>Speaker B</cite>
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<p>Join me inside this week's episode.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So, day to Day, what does this feel like?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Does it feel like exhaustion that you just can't beat?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Are you second guessing yourself as a parent?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Do you have a gut instinct that maybe you aren't quite listening to and you really don't know why?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Do you feel like you're failing despite trying harder than you ever have at anything in your entire life?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I feel you because I have been there.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I was there.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I was that person that I just described, but I haven't been for a little while now.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>That is because I've used my academic training, my professional background, supporting families with neurodivergent children, specifically autistic and PDA children, parenting my own pda, kids of various ages, different presentations, and somehow doing it while supporting my own PDA neurotype and figuring all of it, its intersection, how it is full of strengths and weaknesses and somehow coming out successful on the other side.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So I do want to offer you a reframe in this short episode and that is that it isn't you, despite what it feels like.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And I know that it feels like you are the problem.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Like it feels like it's us that is doing something wrong.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We're the ones who get yelled at.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We're the ones who get chairs thrown at us.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We are the ones that the teachers are disappointed in.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Or that's what it feels like.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So what I want to offer you today, and what I would love for you to take from this episode, is that the struggles that you are feeling in parenting your neurodivergent child, your PDA autistic child, possibly their ADHD as well, huge intersection there.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It is not you, okay?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It is what you were given or what you weren't given, actually.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>That generic advice that generational, traditional pass down Advice that is so outdated, that never took emotional needs or someone's wellbeing into consideration.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And then if we have a nervous system that feels threat at such a higher level all of the time, then of course you're struggling.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>You are literally trying to parent a child who is so at their core of their being, their nervous system, they're opposed, like actually rejecting everything you are doing, even when you are well intentioned, even when you've done all this research.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It's a lot.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It's so much to carry.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So please know that it isn't you.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And what I would love if you could think about instead of that story that you may be telling yourself, is the tools that you have, the map you were given to parent your PDA child, it just doesn't fit your child.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It is the wrong map.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Literally wrong map, wrong tools.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>You have embarked on this road trip of parenting that somebody else kind of planned for you.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And you don't have the things necessary to, to be successful right now.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I promise you that you will once you figure it all out.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I want to, as I've kind of been sharing lately about my.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>My story, kind of that thing that sparked everything to change in my parenting and in my husband's parenting of our PDA son.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We then later realized that our second son, our middle boy, is pda.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So we have a big PDA home.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And those competing and very strong nervous system needs drive for autonomy.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It is exactly what I had just said.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It is competing, they compete against each other.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And this is also why every family situation is different and why any guidance that anybody, so not just myself but anybody, would give you, it would be incorrect of them, in my opinion, to assume that the way that your child or your family systems work or how your child presents in their PDA profile is the same or deserves the same attention and strategies and framework or way of applying a specific framework that another PDA child in their family has.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Because it is incorrect, it is different.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We have to differentiate the support for PDA children, teens, adults, as they change, as they develop, depending on what developmental milestone or area of their life they're in right now, how much involvement you have, or are they really little and you're just figuring this out?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Amazing.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Are they a little bit older and all those hormone shifts are happening?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Is there other stuff going on?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Have they moved out of home?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Have they embarked on tertiary education or college or university?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And now are they struggling?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Have you been so incredibly accommodating to your older child who maybe now is a late teen or early adult.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And because you are so accommodating, you've maybe thought that a lot of this or a lot of these traits that you're seeing are just quirks or they're strong willed and you may now be navigating with them or alongside them, a late diagnosis, which is amazing, by the way.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>If that is you, you're going, yes, yes, we did it.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Well done you, if that's accessible and obviously if that is what you and your child wanted.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So my story that I do want to share with you is my rock bottom.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We realized that our son was autistic just after he was three.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But we knew that there were a lot of sensory differences from quite an early age.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We also realized, hey, this is our first child.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Maybe we really don't know what we're doing and maybe a lot of it is us and it wasn't.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But I think all kind of new parents feel that in one way or another.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>The difference though, is that I had done this for years in my professional role within education, developmental psychology training, attachment theory, autism identification.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I have literally been supporting autistic children, neurodivergent children and their families, learning support in one way or another for almost 15 years.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So of course I was going to be given an autistic child.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Of course, of course I was meant to figure that out.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Of course it was also going to be a completely different path than what I thought it might be, or a different path than what happens when I support families.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And then within my son's diagnosis, I realized quite late that every quirk or awkwardness or trait I tried to hide or that exhausted me for almost 35 years was autism.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And that I am autistic.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And I received my late diagnosis of ADHD and autism and then realized at the same time that my whole life made sense and also that I was pda.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And with that lens of knowing deeply within myself and then being able to offer that support not just to families, but to my own own children.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Sorry, everyone listening.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>At the moment, I'm just talking about my child.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But I also know that a lot of you are parenting through neurodivergence and identifying this within yourself as well.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Perimenopause, hormone shifts, menopause, huge life events.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So often we fill out these assessments or we look at something with a new perspective or a new lens, and then bam, all of a sudden, it finally all makes sense.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So my story of the rock bottom.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It started with the sensory sensitivities, started with massive meltdown, massive panic, massive overwhelm.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Luckily, he was our first one.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So even though I was exhausted and pregnant with our second, it was still really hard.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But I was able to co regulate as best I knew how with him.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But something was different.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>All the autism, everything that we had read, we had him diagnosed.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>He was really hyperverbal as well.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So like so much of it went unnoticed to everyone else.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Except when he would absolutely fall apart with me, his main caregiver, his co regulator and man, that was hard.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And it still is hard.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I will say it still is hard on those days that it happens.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But the good thing is that it doesn't happen as often and we know exactly what to do when something does happen.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Sure, we get stumped every once in a while, but that's kind of life as well and it gives us a new challenge.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But the difference is that how I explained myself at the beginning.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So after we hit that rock bottom, which I still haven't actually described to you, so I will in a sec, I promise I'll get to it.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But we genuinely, myself, my husband, we do not feel exhausted in this PDA parenting anymore.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We aren't walking on eggshells.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We aren't apprehensive like we used to be.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We have a different understanding of nervous systems and nervous system safety.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And even though I say this really calmly right now, I am telling you hand over heart that we were not on the same page at the beginning.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It took us some time.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Our evenings were so boring.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>They were full of massive meltdowns.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And then finally getting kids to bed and then debriefing.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Because how fun and boring is that about debriefing?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Of how you spoke in the declarative language that you used or didn't use to your child and why you could have done it this way or maybe you could have done it this way or you know, maybe we wanted to spend one night not thinking about those things.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So it is so normal if you are debriefing your entire day when you don't want to, because there is nothing fun about that when you are tired and you are exhausted.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So when we hit rock bottom three in the morning, my son was flicking the lights like on and off, on and off, on and off.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I didn't realize at the time.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Well, I kind of did, but I was just so not able to see it.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>He was avoiding, he was equalizing.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It was 3am and he did not know how to get back to sleep.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It was really hard for him.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And it still is.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But in that moment I was just fight, fight, fight.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And then I literally Just hours of being awake, hours of me having my own sensory overwhelm from the lights going on and off.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I cannot stand bright lights, let alone the flickering of those lights.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I literally just burst into tears and sunk down the wall.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And I just remember saying, like, I give up.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Like, I'm just not trying anymore.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I just.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Everything I'm trying just doesn't work.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I just need a break.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I need to just not try, not say anything, Just give up for a few days just to regain some control that I felt like I didn't have.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And I think so many of us feel this.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>We go, where is our control in our own home.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Not necessarily that we want to control our child, but that we just don't feel like we have any ground to walk on, ground to stand on.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>You have no one to lean on as our home just breaks on eggshells around us.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So I honestly, I get it when I hear parents say how exhausted and how depleted they are.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I absolutely know that every single parent who says this is trying their butt off for their child.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But funny enough, in that moment, at 3:00am, I would have been after 3:00am because I was there for a while.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But when I was like, I'm done.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I just give up.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I'm not gonna.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:11:46</time>
<p>I'm not saying anything.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I'm just.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Everything I say is wrong.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I can't make this right.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:11:50</time>
<p>I can't connect with my child.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:11:52</time>
<p>Why have I failed?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:11:53</time>
<p>Why is he just always panicking?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:11:55</time>
<p>Why can't I help him?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And funny enough, within the quiet, within me, quitting within me, giving up, he actually connected with me.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And that's kind of when a big light bulb went off and I went, this really is his nervous system.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>And I knew that.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:12:09</time>
<p>The books told me that.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:12:10</time>
<p>But without that moment, that realization, even then, like, without the support of a community behind me, I wasn't able to successfully make changes.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>I really, really had to do a whole parenting overhaul.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:12:25</time>
<p>It was so hard.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:12:26</time>
<p>It's second nature now, and I'm so glad that we did it.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But anyone listening who's going, like, there just has to be a better way.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:12:32</time>
<p>Like, there is a better way.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>It is hard, it is challenging, and it takes time.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:12:36</time>
<p>But if you are ready, if you've had your own, gosh, I'm done.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Gosh, I'm just going to stop speaking and see what happens.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>Moments, and you just miss your child and you want them back, it can happen.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>You just need the right approach, and you just need to stop using all the wrong strategies or too many of the right strategies.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>But the ones that weren't actually intended for your specific child.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
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<p>So what changed with this right approach?</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:13:03</time>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:04</time>
<p>Well, we got to leave the house.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:06</time>
<p>We started coming at a burnout.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:08</time>
<p>And by we, I was also in a neurodivergent burnout.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:11</time>
<p>We were all exhausted.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:12</time>
<p>But my son, he was no longer in his PDA autistic burnout.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:17</time>
<p>It took probably about a year, maybe a little bit more for him to fully come out of it.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:21</time>
<p>But that work that we put in was so valuable and it has set him up for success.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:27</time>
<p>And this approach, by the way, isn't something that you can just buy off the shelf.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:32</time>
<p>This is what has worked for myself, my framework, by utilizing the research that I have done, the experience that I have of almost 15 years, my own personal PDA experience, and of my children, with all the work that I've done, the shifts that I've made in myself.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:48</time>
<p>It's deep mindset work, this being a parent thing, let alone being a parent of a PDA child, teen or young adult.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:13:55</time>
<p>And I will credit all the incredible PDA specialists that I have learned from that have given me little pieces in order to create this three pillared framework that I support parents through in a six month transformation inside grounded in pda.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:13</time>
<p>That is your six month transformation from burnout to relief.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:17</time>
<p>This is my signature transformation.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:20</time>
<p>What I know works the deep support alongside parents who are struggling.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:27</time>
<p>And it works because it isn't positioned as a quick fix because those actually don't work.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:32</time>
<p>You might be thinking, is this for me?</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:34</time>
<p>Maybe I am ready.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:35</time>
<p>And what I will ask you is what happens if you don't actually do something, not something that you can just commit a day to, but actually something that you commit to six months, to a longer period of time.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:48</time>
<p>Something that you know will change your child and your family for the better.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:14:53</time>
<p>If that sounds like you, if you feel ready to make that change, that mindset shift in your life, in your home, and regain that control, that relief, actually watch your child come back, stop feeling so exhausted.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:06</time>
<p>Then I will let you know, depending on when you're listening to this, that the course still has a few more spaces.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:13</time>
<p>And I would absolutely love if you felt ready to send me a DM on Instagram.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:18</time>
<p>Find me Heantel Hewitt.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:21</time>
<p>I'll also link my Instagram below in the show notes.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:24</time>
<p>DM me saying I'm ready.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:26</time>
<p>And when I get that, I will take that.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:28</time>
<p>As you want some more info, you need a bit of help deciding.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:32</time>
<p>You may have a question or two or three or five that is very okay.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:36</time>
<p>Happy to answer your questions.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:38</time>
<p>The doors officially close and this is a small group coming into this next cohort.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:44</time>
<p>We start on the 5th of October.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:47</time>
<p>I cannot wait to see your name come through my DMs.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:15:50</time>
<p>If you feel like your family situation where you're at right now, if you feel like you're ready and that this could be a really good fit, then please, please send me that DM over on Instagram and I will do my absolute best to make sure that you have all the information to make an informed decision on the supports moving forward for your family and for yourself.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:16:15</time>
<p>And if you are listening and you realize, oh no, the link that I have just clicked on, it's not there anymore.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:16:22</time>
<p>If that's true, then it will just take you to a waitlist page and then you will be notified.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:16:26</time>
<p>So jump on that wait list.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:16:27</time>
<p>If that is you and you've clicked on that, jump on the wait list because you get an amazing discount when I do open the doors again to this program and you will be the first to know that is it.</p>
<cite>Speaker A</cite>
<time>00:16:37</time>
<p>For today's episode, I will see you inside my DMs.</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:16:44</time>
<p>Thank you so much for allowing me into your world today.</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:16:47</time>
<p>Wherever you are around the globe.</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:16:49</time>
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<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:16:56</time>
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<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:16:59</time>
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<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:17:03</time>
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<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:17:14</time>
<p>That actually feels good.</p>
<cite>Speaker B</cite>
<time>00:17:16</time>
<p>I'm Chantal and I'll see you next week.</p>